Robert Morey writes a book on a topic he is a master.
After a long period of silence I was notifed by email that Robert Morey had reappeared in the place that rumor claimed he existed. I will not in public name the person who sent me the email but he doesn’t live in Texas so that narrows the field a bit but not much.
Author Profile
Dr. Robert A. Morey, (M.A., D.Min., Ph.D., D.D.), is the Executive Director of Faith Defenders, PO Box 240, Millerstown, PA, 17062. . He has written over forty-five books and was founder and President of CA Biblical University and Seminary.
Please note the new mail address of Faith Defenders which is in PA, not Orange County CA. Note the “was founder and President of CA Biblical University and Seminary” not “is founder and President of CA Biblical University and Seminary”. This appears to be as public of an announcement that “California Biblical University and Seminary” is as gone as the Faith Defender Building at 17601 Fitch Avenue in Irvine, CA that one will probably ever see published anywhere.
Finally Robert Morey has published a new book and the title of the book is something that Robert Morey is an expert about since FIRE has documented that Robert Morey is the master of slander and gossip. Finally Robert Morey writes a book on a topic that he really does know something about.
Faith Defender website on new Morey book can be viewed here.
This book is essential reading for all in Christian leadership today. Slander and gossip are condemned in Scripture more than any other sins. Dr. Morey has written the definitive biblical study of these two sins. Slanderers and gossipmongers use the internet to rape the Bride of Christ and to drag the name of Jesus through the mud!”May God use this powerful book to rebuke these evil doers!”
-Bishop Colin P. Akridge
“Dr. Morey’s handbook is full of practical and valuable counsel on recognizing and responding (or not responding) to slander: for instance, 21 signs of how to recognize a gossip monger. Last but not least, what makes this little book especially valuable, are all the contemporary illustrations of gossip and slander, along with the application of biblical principles to them. These illustrations are drawn from Dr. Morey’s long ministry and vast experience as a pastor and as a counselor of pastors (pastor pastorum) and their parishioners.”
-Dr. George P. Hutchinson, Th.M., D.Phil.
On October 13th I went to the FaithDefenders website and ordered some CDs on an intro to the book of Revelation. Paypal confirmed that my payment was deposited in their account on the 19th. I still have not received my CDs and am now somewhat doubtful I will get them. Even when I was at their website I had this nagging suspicion that something was not right (before I found your blog). Is their website at all legit?? Do you know if they fulfill orders placed there? Your input is important to me. Thank you!
Frank.
rzhblog Says:
Historically Faith Defenders has been very good at filling orders per the Better Business Bureau. There has not been any complaints that I am aware of related to failure to supply what was ordered.
However, that was before Faith Defenders suffered what has happened in recent months. It has been awhile since I have checked with the Better Business Bureau about Faith Defenders too. I recommend that you file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau if you do not appear to get any action from a Faith Defenders person.
Sorry to hear about your problems with Faith Defenders but maybe a complaint with PayPal will get some response?
Please do not allow Faith Defenders to get away with taking your money without supplying the goods that you ordered.
I sincerely hope that your ordered goods does arrive in the mail soon.
The Faith Defenders website appears to give only an email address with no mailing address or phone number. The historical toll free phone number for Faith Defenders is (800) 418-7884 but all I get is a busy signal for that phone number. This phone number comes from the sign on the Faith Defender’s building before it was destroyed for the construction of a new hotel. A photo of that sign can be viewed here.
Douglas Shenk per my research is still connected to the Faith Defenders website and he still attends the church that Robert Morey was pastor of before moving to California. The website for New Life Bible Church is here.
Both “California Bible University and Seminary” and “Faith Community Church of Orange Country, Inc.” no longer exist and the phones to both ministries have been disconnected.
Since Robert Morey is rumored to be somewhere in Pennsylvania; perhaps “New Life Bible Church” maybe able to give you Robert Morey’s current phone number and / or address.
Due to the fact that Robert Morey appears to have dropped out of sight somewhere in Pennsylvania; this blog has little to post now days related to it’s mission statement.
The conflict that started here that was off mission statement for this blog will be addressed by the new blog and no comments will be allowed on the new blog. All comments related to the original conflict that started here will not be posted here either.
The WordPress blog is totally closed to comments. The Blogger blog would be the same way but Blogger doesn’t allow this option. Therefore, the Blogger blog is open to subscriber comments only and I have no plans to have any subscribers. This is due to my experience with this blog that Watchblog Popes do not like being questioned and they can post extremely angry comments on my blog. Demand that I act quickly on their comment(s) or risk some negative action like fire falling from Heaven to consume me for infinity. Also, there is the trolling comments left advertizing a Watchblog site. By the grace of God, I have yet to be hit by a lightning bolt or suffer some other negative event for posting a negative blog article on one of the Lord’s self-appointed Watchblog Popes.
The option will still exist that persons wishing to respond to my postings can email me, but I will have the policy that I do not have to respond to emails that I believe are not worth responding to.
I have freedom of speech and I do not have to allow comments on a blog posting or answer an email either. I call this my Mark Driscoll policy since it is his policy for dealing with critics per my understanding.
The Mark Driscoll critic suddenly made a new demand that I remove all postings related to him. I took the liberty to remove all comments he has posted too even if that went above his request. As usual the demand didn’t include please or any other kind of respect. I have no idea why that demand was suddenly given as he gave no explanation. I do not assume that I had any victory as he admitted no victory and I have admitted in one of the removed posting that he had a few good points.
Like Mark Driscoll, I desire peace with others even person I disagree with. The Mark Driscoll critic I admit made some good points which I was willing to consider as having merit. However, I still believed I was right even if I had to amend some of my statements. I am willing to admit when I am in error but I was not willing to admit I was in error sufficient to admit him totally right. On some matters where he appeared to be partly right I was willing to met him halfway by amending some of my postings.
I considered his request to have the postings related to him removed an acceptable request as long as all of his comments were removed too.
It is like he was never present at this blog. If I managed to miss something that should be removed like a comment or another posting it will be removed even if the request once again doesn’t include the word “please”.
Nothing was deleted as everything was saved including his request to have all postings related to him removed. It is saved so it can be restored later but I have no plans to restore any of that material. Modified postings will appear later that have some of the information as to why I really do believe that Mark Driscoll is not being treated fairly by many watchblogs. There are some watchblogs out there that do have a fair and balanced critique of Mark Driscoll. I know that Mark Driscoll is not perfect and he is not above being called to account for some issues in a loving and graceful way that will help him improve his ministry. Iron does sharpen iron if done in a loving and graceful way that honors God.
I hope this does help in creating peace as this blog doesn’t exist to start blog wars. It exists for me to protest what I believe is not right in so-called Christian cyperspace.
Now I am late to my train to San Diego ….. because I had to amend this blog.
If my rush to make these changes per his request has resulted in a mess because I made the changes so quickly; that will be fixed after my return from San Diego.
This blog appears to be no longer connected to “Faith Defenders”. The weblinks between the “Faith Defenders” and “Biblical Thought” websites have been removed. Robert Morey no longer appears to post on “Biblical Thought” and he appears to have been replaced by “John Calvin Facebook”. As of this date, John Calvin Facebook has not posted on Biblical Thought.
If you love red herring arguments and other logical fallacy arguments like guilt by association; then Biblical Thought is a great Christian apologetics blog. Robert Morey doesn’t appear to blog there anymore. The weblink to “Biblical Thought” from the “Faith Defenders” website has been removed. Likewise, the weblink to “Faith Defenders” from the “Biblical Thought” website has been removed. “Biblical Thought” now weblinks to “John Calvin Facebook” making it appear that the spirit of John Calvin has replaced Robert Morey. Per registration information for “biblicalthought.com” the owner of this website address is “Media Kamp” not Robert Morey or any of his DBAs.
In response to Stephen Macasil’s very overgeneralized blog posting called “Has the Apologetics Demand Suddenly Increased?“ This blog takes the position that the apologetic needs of modern Christendom has not increased but the need for watchblog persons like Stephen Macasil to get into a real Christian ministry has increased. Satire blogs to make fun of persons like Stephen Macasil has radically increased and praise the Lord that need is being met!!!!! I present the following Satireblog postings as evidence:
As a paraphase of Paul says: “Did Stephen Macasil die for your sins?”
If the answer is no you must follow Jesus and not Stephen Macasil.
As the Bible says you cannot have two masters so pick the right one as it means the difference between Heaven and Hell. Desire God not unique spiritual discernment that results in brood of viper blogs in Cyperspace claiming to have Biblical Thought.
The purpose of this blog is not to critique Daniel Chew. Even if Daniel took time out of his extremely busy schedule of attacking persons on his blog to include this blog for a short period before deciding that it was a waste of his time to attack me [Obviously attacking me was not resulting in enough traffic to his blog so he moved on to topics that created the Google traffic desired to his blog.]. He attacked me for liking Mark Driscoll whereas Stephen Macasil attacked me for liking Tim Keller.
There is another anti-Mark Driscoll blog that has taken more of an interest in attacking this blog than Daniel Chew has to date and I have gotten tired of that person’s silly comments. The purpose of this blog is not to defend Mark Driscoll from the many bloggers who love to slander him. I leave it up to God to punish persons who slander Mark Driscoll using blogs and I wouldn’t want to be them on judgement day.
The party spirit very much exists in Christendom where a blog that is part of the wrong party gets attacked by bloggers of the other party. I agree with Mark Driscoll that it should all be about Jesus; but Mark Driscoll tends to speak more of Jesus than his critics who at times appear to be promoting a version of Christless Christianity that Michael Horton of The White Horse Inn has been busy exposing as non-Christian. One of the rules of the Christless Christianity promoted by the anti-Mark Driscoll gang is that to be a true Christian you must have spiritual discernment that Mark Driscoll has no right to be a teaching elder of any real Christian church. It is not sufficient to discern that Mark Driscoll speaks more about Jesus than his critics have a tendency to. Mark Driscoll’s critics are too busy talking about what their favorite spiritual discernment guide has recently posted on his blog to have any time to say much about Jesus. At times I ponder if “spiritual discernment” has become a god in modern Christendom that has more influence than Jesus himself. Who cares what Jesus had to say about anything but did you recently read what ______ had to say on his blog.
I have become aware of a blogger who has become a major critic of Daniel Chew. There is a lot of persons on the internet getting really tired of Daniel Chew. You would think that Daniel Chew was VemonFangX’s spiritual brother in Christ.
The Anti-Daniel Chew blog is called “Antithesis“. For the record, this is a Anti-Stephen Macasil and Anti-Robert Morey blog. You will know they are true Christians by whom they are against!!!!! You must leave Jesus out of this matter as true truth wars have nothing to do with Jesus. Spiritual Discernment is what it is all about as the Bible is understood only by those that have the correct spiritual discernment.
Because I am sick of modern stupid Christian songs and being told I will burn in Hell for daring to disagree with various spiritual discernment guides who I believe may not be really Christians but only God knows for sure; I love this satire video posted on Discerning the World 3:
I am sure that many spiritual discernment guides will take my like of this video as good satire evidence that I am truly born to burn in Hell for eternity.
Beyond question, this blog would get more traffic if I decided to attack Tim Keller and / or Mark Driscoll than I currently get for being an Anti-Stephen Macasil and Anti-Robert Morey blog. I get more Google traffic for the few Roberts Liardon related postings than I do either Stephen Macacil or Robert Morey. I confess that I do not attack persons popular enough to get the huge Google traffic that Stephen Macasil and Daniel Chew get for attacking much more popular persons in Christendom.
I added Roberts Lairdon’s photo to this blog posting in order to get more to read it as few desire to read about Stephen Macasil, Robert Morey, or Daniel Chew. The only connection between Roberts Liardon and Robert Morey is a building that use to exist in Irvine, CA.
It is now in a California landfill but not forgotten as it was both the Embassy Christian Center and the Faith Defenders building.
